What is the difference between Kumain ako habang natulog siya and Kumakain ako habang natutulog siya ?

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Abukadong_abukado · Answer

@ChinitoPH

I dunno if it's just me but the former sounds a bit off

Abukadong_abukado · Answer

@ChinitoPH The first one.

walangmagawasabuhay · Answer

@ChinitoPh

Kumain ako habang natulog siya- two simultaneous short actions.

Correct sentence would be : 
Kumain ako habang s'ya naman ay natulog.

Your sentence means "I ate while he/she went to sleep." ( I am not sure if this is correct in English)

While he/she was asleep, I ate. ‎(Kumain ako habang TULOG siya)

Kumakain ako habang natutulog siya- two simultaneous long actions.

While he/she was sleeping, I was eating.

I have a question for you, as a native English speaker, is it correct to say, "I ate while he/she went to sleep"?

walangmagawasabuhay · Answer

@ChinitoPH saan yung 'di natural? "I ate while he went to sleep" o "I ate while he was asleep"?

walangmagawasabuhay · Answer

@ChinitoPH una di natural, pero yung I ate while he was asleep natural at tama ang grammar? tama ba?

walangmagawasabuhay · Answer

@ChinitoPH ah ok salamat, pwede pa ba akong magtanong. Last na 'to promise. 😆 Anong pagkakaiba ng "I was sleeping" at "I was asleep"?

walangmagawasabuhay · Answer

@ChinitoPH teka, nalito ako sa sinabi mo na I ATE while he WAS SLEEPING. Parang wrong grammar yata. Di ba di pwedeng maging simultaneous yung kasi tapos na yung unang action while yung isa continuous pa rin in the past ? Sori naguluhan ako sa explanation mo.

walangmagawasabuhay · Answer

@ChinitoPH ok, gets ko na difference nilang dalawa. Sa tagalog,
 I was asleep when you called (tulog ako noong tumawag ka )
 I was sleeping when you called  (natutulog ako noong tumawag ka).

walangmagawasabuhay · Answer

@ChinitoPH  magaling ka kaya magtagalog. Kaso ang daming inconsistency talaga sa grammar rules ng English.

walangmagawasabuhay · Answer

@ChinitoPH nakakatawa naman reaction mo sa sinabi ko na mali grammar mo. Nagulat lang kasi ako yung two actions na nasa magkaibang boundary ng timeline. Pero salamat sa explanation mo and happy new year.👍

walangmagawasabuhay · Answer

@ChinitoPH totoo yan mas mahirap Tagalog kaysa English. Nagiging mahirap ang English di dahil sa mahirap ang grammar kundi sa inconsistency ng grammar.  Oh sya, matutulog na ako ha. Good morning na lang sayo 😆

walangmagawasabuhay · Answer

Good morning na kasi 3:47 am na eh.  Joke lang. Sige tulog na ako. Salamat.

walangmagawasabuhay · Answer

@ChinitoPH Naku joke lng yun ha baka mamaya damdamin mo ng husto. Mapagbiro lang talaga ako.

walangmagawasabuhay · Answer

ay mali nang husto pala.

walangmagawasabuhay · Answer

@parag0n That's another possible translation because in Tagalog we don't use tense but aspect. When you say "am eating" while "is sleeping" that means there are two long actions happening at the same time. Then with your number two question, there are two types of sentence construction in tagalog, the karaniwang ayos at di- karaniwang ayos.

walangmagawasabuhay · Answer

@parag0n By the way, what is your definiton of NATURAL? If I say, the sun rises in the East. Do you consider this "sounds natural" and why? Kindly explain.

parag0n · Answer

@ChinitoPH first let's deal with "Kumakain ako habang natutulog siya." It's "I am eating while he/she is sleeping."

Now let's go back to the first sentence, if you're trying to say "I ate while he/she went to sleep." then it will sound more natural if you say "Kumain ako habang natulog NAMAN siya."

Correct me guys if I've made some mistake 😅

parag0n · Answer

@walangmagawasabuhay hmmm i may have used the word natural in an ambiguous way.

x_xtin_ · Answer

your first sentence is past tense ( I ate while he/she slept) and your second sentence is present( I'm eating while he's/ she's sleeping. 😁😁

What is the difference between Kumain ako habang natulog siya and Kumakain ako habang natutulog siya ?Feel free to just provide example sentences.

@ChinitoPH

I dunno if it's just me but the former sounds a bit off