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24 Nov 2020
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What is the difference between Trump was a political outsider, the first president to never have held elected office before. and Trump was a political outsider, the first president that never have held elected office before. ?Feel free to just provide example sentences.
What is the difference between Trump was a political outsider, the first president to never have held elected office before. and Trump was a political outsider, the first president that never have held elected office before. ?Feel free to just provide example sentences.
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@rikakokokokoko both sentences have iffy grammatical structures. a more correct arrangement would be, "trump was a political outsider, the first president to have never held an elected office before." if you want to replace 'to' with 'that,' 'have here would change from an infinitive verb to an auxiliary verb, as follows, "trump was a political outsider, the first president that had never held an elected office before."
in conclusion, you can use either of the sentences i provided; there's just a little nuance in between
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@rikakokokokoko both sentences have iffy grammatical structures. a more correct arrangement would be, "trump was a political outsider, the first president to have never held an elected office before." if you want to replace 'to' with 'that,' 'have here would change from an infinitive verb to an auxiliary verb, as follows, "trump was a political outsider, the first president that had never held an elected office before."
in conclusion, you can use either of the sentences i provided; there's just a little nuance in between
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Thank you so much for correcting my sentences. This is very very helpful!
If you don't mind, can I ask what nuance there is?
Trump was a political outsider, the first president to have never held an elected office before.
Trump was a political outsider, the first president that had never held an elected office before
If you don't mind, can I ask what nuance there is?
Trump was a political outsider, the first president to have never held an elected office before.
Trump was a political outsider, the first president that had never held an elected office before
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@rikakokokokoko mind you, this is subjective, but i feel that the second sentence is somewhat derogatory, downplaying his achievement as the premier politically-ignorant head of state as just another lucky strike.
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because 'that' was used instead of 'who.' the first sentence tried to be as objective as possible.
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@myczxr
Thank you so much for taking the time to answer! I really appreciate it!!
I'm so sorry to bother you. But I'd like to make sure if my understanding is correct.
I learned that the second sentence is a little bit derogatory since I use 'that' instead of 'who.'
If it's 'trump was a political outsider, the first president who had never held an elected office before,' is there no nuance in between the two?
Thank you so much for taking the time to answer! I really appreciate it!!
I'm so sorry to bother you. But I'd like to make sure if my understanding is correct.
I learned that the second sentence is a little bit derogatory since I use 'that' instead of 'who.'
If it's 'trump was a political outsider, the first president who had never held an elected office before,' is there no nuance in between the two?
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@rikakokokokoko yes. using 'that' instead of who is derogatory. it's like using 'it' instead of 's/he' and 'him/her.'
"he is the one who did it"
"he is that one that did it"
the second sentence is more derogatory
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@myczxr
I see! Thank you so much for your time! You are wonderful:) I really appreciate it!!
I see! Thank you so much for your time! You are wonderful:) I really appreciate it!!
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